Sungenis Versus Faulkner on Geocentrism

Response to Danny Faulkner

From Robert Sungenis


Geocentrism: History and Background

by Dr. Danny R. Faulkner on August 29, 2020


D. Faulkner: Introduction to Geocentrism: Most people today believe the heliocentric theory, that the

earth is one of eight planets orbiting the sun. This has been the dominant cosmology for four centuries.

However, there has been a geocentric movement among biblical creationists dating back at least to the


R. Sungenis: Actually it dates back to the 1960s, along with the creationist movement. For the Christian

evangelicals, Henry Morris started the creationist movement with his book The Genesis Flood. The

geocentric movement was started by Walter van der Kamp in his periodical, “Bulletin of the Tychonian

Society” around 1967. After Walter died in 1988, Gerhardus Bouw took over the periodical and renamed

it “The Biblical Astronomer” and backdated issues can be found at Bouw has a

Ph.D. in Astronomy from Case Western University near Cleveland.

Although the arguments from these two geocentrists were formidable, Henry Morris, the leader of the

evangelical movement of creationists, decided not to “fight a war on two fronts” with secular scientists.

It was tough enough, he claimed, to fight a war against secular evolutionists, much less secular

Copernicans. In Morris’ view, his evangelical science movement would be ridiculed beyond reason if they

supported geocentrism. So the decision was made to abandon geocentrism and adhere to creationism

alone. Danny Faulkner, among others, are products of Morris’ decision, which is why today one cannot

find any support from the numerous creationist organizations for geocentrism

D. Faulkner: The term geocentric theory, or geocentrism, usually refers to the belief that the

earth does not revolve around the sun each year but rather that the sun orbits the earth.

However, there is a secondary meaning to geocentrism: that the earth also does not rotate on

its axis each day. Like geocentrists of old, modern geocentrists are divided as to whether the

earth rotates, but they are united in belief that the earth does not revolve. Modern geocentrists

usually pursue two lines of arguments: scientific and biblical. Here I will examine both.

R. Sungenis: Although it is true that there are two camps, those believing the earth rotates are very few.

The reason is simple. There would be no seasons for the earth, unless the universe were allowed to

undulate (i.e., move vertically or up and down) by 47 degrees every six months but not rotate around the

earth. If so, they would need to explain how the universe undulates without rotating, which would be nigh

impossible according to present laws of physics.

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